S-E-X
I knew you'd like this post. :-)
With another shout-out to author Karmela Johnson, she reviewed Trace of Innocence on her website (I got an A!) and was bummed I didn't write a more explicit sex scene for my lead characters.
Here's the thing. I have no problem writing about sex, though, quite frankly, euphemisms are not my thing. I like to call a penis a . . . well, you get the idea. But to me S-E-X isn't about what's between the legs, but what's between the ears.
It's all dialogue.
Not dialogue as in talking dirty, though if the scene called for that, I'd write it. I mean dialogue as in the exchange between characters. To me, there is nothing sexier than two very intelligent people challenging each other intellectually before they fall into the sack.
I know erotic fiction is really "hot" in the romance market right now. I know people will always like to read a hot, passionate sex scene. But to me, it's all the intellectual foreplay. That's the best part.
Think of movies where this is the case. You know, what was it . . . Two Weeks Notice with Sandra Bullock and Hugh Grant? Not my typical flick (I hate romantic comedies . . . yes, I know I sometimes write them, but that doesn't mean I subject myself to them on film). But you know what? They bantered through that whole picture and only kissed at the end, and it was the equivalent of two hours of foreplay. Cute, funny, sexy foreplay.
In my books, I think Spanish Disco had the longest intellectual foreplay. I had a ball writing it that way, keeping them apart. For FIVE YEARS!
How about you? Like brainy S-E-X? Favorite film or book where that is accomplished?
With another shout-out to author Karmela Johnson, she reviewed Trace of Innocence on her website (I got an A!) and was bummed I didn't write a more explicit sex scene for my lead characters.
Here's the thing. I have no problem writing about sex, though, quite frankly, euphemisms are not my thing. I like to call a penis a . . . well, you get the idea. But to me S-E-X isn't about what's between the legs, but what's between the ears.
It's all dialogue.
Not dialogue as in talking dirty, though if the scene called for that, I'd write it. I mean dialogue as in the exchange between characters. To me, there is nothing sexier than two very intelligent people challenging each other intellectually before they fall into the sack.
I know erotic fiction is really "hot" in the romance market right now. I know people will always like to read a hot, passionate sex scene. But to me, it's all the intellectual foreplay. That's the best part.
Think of movies where this is the case. You know, what was it . . . Two Weeks Notice with Sandra Bullock and Hugh Grant? Not my typical flick (I hate romantic comedies . . . yes, I know I sometimes write them, but that doesn't mean I subject myself to them on film). But you know what? They bantered through that whole picture and only kissed at the end, and it was the equivalent of two hours of foreplay. Cute, funny, sexy foreplay.
In my books, I think Spanish Disco had the longest intellectual foreplay. I had a ball writing it that way, keeping them apart. For FIVE YEARS!
How about you? Like brainy S-E-X? Favorite film or book where that is accomplished?


10 Comments:
Hi Erica,
I agree with you completely. Having that intellectual foreplay and building that emotional connection is what I look for in a good story, too. I think that might be why I enjoy the Jane Austen type of books...They're all about the banter. Not that I won't read other types of stories--I do. But I think I become more invested in the characters when I see how they mesh intellectually and emotionally.
Michele
Michele:
Perfect example. Pride and Prejudice--both movie versions. Emma. Love that aspect of those movies, books, etc.
E
Awwwww...so yes, I'm no intellectual. I love me my love scenes. This is why I eventually quit watching Moonlighting. And The X-Files. I couldn't stand the tension anymore without the payoff. Or the LOOOOOONG payoff, in the case of Moonlighting. Or the non-payoff with The X-Files. But notice I don't say "sex scenes." They have to be LOVE scenes, mind you.
Here's my favorite dancing-around-each-other couple: the first season-and-a-half of "Alias" positively SIZZLED with Vaughn and Syd's love glances and chemistry. Rowr.
But c'mon, I know there's a ToI love scene floating in your PC somewhere right? ;-) Like a "deleted scenes?" Hehe...
Hi Karm:
You're so funny. But you know, that's part of why I don't watch shows like Cheers (when it was first-run TV), and stopped watching Friends after Ross and Rachel broke up. I don't want to see people bicker for YEARS with no pay-off when you know damn well after x amount of time, they will get together and the show's writers and producers will somehow ruin it. Why can't they show a funny, real, complex relationship without it all turning to sh*t?
And no deleted scenes, Karm. And I got bad news for you in book 2, but book 3 . . . erotic. But not what you're expecting.
LOL!
E
Hands down the best banter is between Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart in The Big Sleep. They never sleep together and I think they have one or two kisses. But this scene is my favorite:
Vivian: Speaking of horses, I like to play them myself. But I like to see them workout a little first, see if they're front runners or come from behind, find out what their whole card is, what makes them run.
Marlowe: Find out mine?
Vivian: I think so.
Marlowe: Go ahead.
Vivian: I'd say you don't like to be rated. You like to get out in front, open up a little lead, take a little breather in the backstretch, and then come home free.
Marlowe: You don't like to be rated yourself.
Vivian: I haven't met anyone yet that can do it. Any suggestions?
Marlowe: Well, I can't tell till I've seen you over a distance of ground. You've got a touch of class, but I don't know how, how far you can go.
Vivian: A lot depends on who's in the saddle.
Wow, Mary . . . from memory or did you sit down with a DVD? LOL!
Great dialogue. You know, as a writer, I watch movies so differently now. It's all, for me, how the screenplay shows me who someone is. I adore good banter, moments of beauty and clarity. I love the movies, period.
E
The only part I took from memory was Vivian's last line. Every thing else came from the International Movie Database. Love that thing!
Personally, I love the intellectual thing as well. I was just reading a book last night in which the jump-the-bones scene was the one I skimmed over until they got past the "Oh, that feels good" dialogue and back into the meat of the story and the relationship.
My favorite non-sex sex talk? The Tennis Song in "City of Angels" (musical theatre).
STONE:
You seem at home on the court
ALAURA:
Let's say that i've played around
STONE:
Well you don't look like the sort
ALAURA:
My hidden talents abound
A competitor hasn't been found to defeat me
STONE:
I'll bet you're a real good sport
ALAURA:
Shall we say the ball is in your court
STONE:
I'll bet you like to play rough
ALAURA:
I like to work up a sweat
STONE:
And you just can't get enough
ALAURA:
I'm good for more than one set
But i promise i'll show no regret
If you beat me
STONE:
My backhand is clearly my forte
BOTH:
Shall we say the ball is in your court
It's pretty sexy -- and like Mary, I had to find the lyrics online, though I did remember portions.
Jen
Hi Jen:
I love banter like that. Loved the whole Hepburn/Tracy type movie. Or The Philadelphia Story with Cary Grant and Hepburn. Or Talk of the Town. Or Holiday. It's harder to find modern movies that do banter well. It was better when it was a whole subtext of sexuality.
I'm working on a book right now with the idea of intellectual soul mates and counterpoints to a person. Finding someone who gets your intellect is a lot sexier than washboard abs.
E
I'm so glad you posted about this! I have felt like a bit of a prude the past few years because I just can't get into the super-hot books that are becoming so popular. To me, the best S-E-X scenes are the result of banter, tension, conversation and tiny, emotional moments between the characters.
A writing friend of mine (a published author) once suggested to me that I should pursue Kensington Brava because I supposedly have the right voice for that line. ONly problem? I'm the kind of romance writer who believes less is more during love scenes.
And I ditto what you said about Pride & Prejudice. My new fave movie of the moment. The best scene is when Darcy touches her for the first time -- when he takes her hand to help her into the carriage, and then we see him sort of stretch out his fingers afterward. *Sigh* That, to me, is romance.
But my favorite? That would have to be Carey Grant and Katherine Hepburn in "Philadelphia Story."
-- Louise
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