Friday, September 15, 2006

A Peaceful Rant

My best friend in college was a man of another race. I adored him like a brother, still do.

And one time, way back when, I was getting divorced and came to visit him. We went out for beers and as usual got to talking about life. And it happened to be when a rapper (I cannot remember who--this was a long time ago) advocated gunning down cops in the 'hood. The O.J. Simpson case was raging. And my friend and I ended up talking about race in America. And I had a simplistic, "Why can't we all get along" mentality. That's who I am. I just want peace. I, especially, was bothered by violent lyrics and writing. I didn't want violent songs recorded. At the least I wanted a warning label. And my friend, not in so many words, called me an idiot.

And he was right. Only I didn't know it yet. That would take me a while.

At the time, I had a child. He didn't. That's a big divide. I wanted to protect my child from hearing about cop killers.

And my friend, working an ugly crime beat as a reporter for the Miami Herald, told me "his" people's reality was the killing cops was a viable option in certain situations.

I thought he was insane.

On the way home that night, white woman in an African-American man's car driving into one of the wealthiest enclaves in Florida, where my parents lived, we were stopped by a white cop. He was nasty. Not a little nasty. A lot nasty. We were not speeding. We were sitting in front of an ocean condo in a car and my friend was giving me my birthday present--a book by Terry McMillan. The cop asked for our identification, flashlight in our eyes so close we really couldn't see. We refused and asked for his badge number. He called for back-up--a car that blocked us in. From there it got worse.

So how does this play to writing?

This is a mini-rant. I figure, if you want to fight with me here, go ahead . . . just play nice. I would say that the reviews for THE ROOFER were some of the best of my career. THE ROOFER, if you haven't read it, is unrelentingly dark. It has incest and murder and rape in it. And The Westies (the irish mob in Hell's Kitchen).

There are two on-line reviewers/bloggers who seem to HATE me. I mean, not just hate my books, but take it personally that I am published and they're not--AND that I write books "glorifying" the mob (ummm, did you actually READ The Roofer? Did you recall the bathtub scene? The claw hammer scene? The bloody nose in the dinner scene? The scene when Uncle Two gets his arm sliced to the bone? The glory in that is . . .???) And, in one online discussion after its release, someone suggested that my books carry a warning label. That they be censored.

Here's my belief: Censorship is wrong.

My spiritual beliefs don't love violence in lyrics and gratuitous violence in movies. I don't like politics of hate. And there's a lot of that in this country. But if you don't want to read it, see it, or hear it, turn off your TV, don't buy the book, turn off your radio.

I don't glorify the mob. I don't advocate solving your problems with a claw hammer. It's FICTION. That means we make it up. But I wrote about the world I knew. NOW I understand my friend. I may not like the world of rappers. I may not like the world of prostitution or the world of the mob or the world of racists or the world of MANY people ranting on their blogs. But I think an artist, a writer, a rapper, has the right to do their art, their rap, their book.

So . . . my peaceful rant of the day. Anyone?

13 Comments:

Blogger lainey bancroft said...

THE ROOFER glorified the mob? Did ROOTS glorify slavery?

I don't agree with censorship either. I think exposure to different beliefs--even misguided ones--can only help people, particularly young people, have a better understanding of human nature. Help them understand that things and people are seldom simply BLACK or WHITE.
If my kids want to listen to it, watch it or read it, I let them and that has opened up a lot of conversations that we may not have otherwise had.

10:55 AM, September 15, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

All right, Lainey! Exactly. What I tell people about kids . . . if they ask you something and you don't answer them or think they are too young to know about something, they will go ask someone else. I would far rather they ask me.

On the flip side, I will say that in this era of Columbine and so on . . . you can't let them listen relentlessly or see things relentlessly without trying to at least impart some sense of perspective.

E

11:59 AM, September 15, 2006  
Blogger Karmela Johnson said...

A-fucking-men, Erica!!! Do you remember that show, So You Think You Can Dance? I loved that show. HUGE fan. I'm a dancer so I was delighted to see dancing on network TV.

But, there were some people on some of the dancing boards who complained vociferously about some of the types of dancing they did. They called the choreography lewd and suggestive and suggested that the TV censors (I forget who they are -- the people who fined JJ for showing her boob during the Superbowl) step in and regulate or fine or do *something*.

I fired back a rant of my own saying if you don't like it, turn your TV off! This is America, not Communist China. I don't want the government regulating what I watch/see/read/listen to. I am perfectly capable of doing that for me and for my family. I went as far to say, "Who the fuck do you think you are to tell me what I can and cannot watch on TV? How would you like it if I did that to you?"

The poster I think was a bit taken aback by my anger. But censorship, just like conservation, is one of those topics that really FIRE me up. Hehe...you can probably tell by this comment.

Okay, perhaps I'll exercise some self-censorship now and let other people post. ;-)

PS: That rapper was Ice-T. I was horrified also in what he said but respect his right to say it.

1:14 PM, September 15, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

karm:
WOW! We'll have a lot to talk about Sunday (KARM AND I ARE MEETING IN PERSON!!!!!!!!!).

Yes, yes, and yes. And another thing . . . (so long as we're ranting). What the hell is it about sex and breasts that freak people out. PERSPECTIVE people. You can turn on TV any time, day or night, and see dead bodies, CSI-type gore and violence--but a nipple and people are freaked? Do you know what's happening in Dafur? In the toughest of our inner cities? In repressive regimes all over the globe? Do you know what happened in Tibet?! A NIPPLE? A NIPPLE needs a SENATE inquiry?

E

1:25 PM, September 15, 2006  
Blogger Natalie Damschroder said...

I agree with you guys 100 percent.

My 7-year-old (so she would have been, what, 5?) was in the room when that SuperBowl incident happened. I was not expecting partial nudity in football. CBS flashed off of it so quickly, she never knew what was happening. So were the brouhaha and punishment excessive? Hell, yes. If someone wants to see JT and JJ pretend to get it on, they should absolutely be able to CHOOSE to see it.

But I also disagree with you 1000%. The whole issue is that word, CHOICE.

You're all moms. How about I take a picture of a man putting his penis into a woman, and stick it in front of your kid's face without warning you?

How about I do it with a photo of a person's head being blown off?

(For the record, I think exposing kids to explicit sex and explicit violence is equally wrong.)

Censorship is wrong. Period. But censorship is DENYING you the right to read or view what you want to see. Putting a label on a book or rating a TV show simply allows parents to make INFORMED choices.

Generally speaking, I agree with Lainey. But my oldest daughter once turned on the TV (she was probably 9 at the time) and the channel we'd left it on was featuring a movie where a guy was holding a gun to another guy's head. She didn't tell us about it then, but when she went to bed she couldn't stop thinking about it, came out crying, and had nightmares that night. So I was very grateful when we gained the ability to block shows on our TV so we could decide if something was okay for her to watch BEFORE it got shoved in her face.

8:09 PM, September 15, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Natalie:
I don't disagree in the sense that you can't make a choice if you don't know what you're about to view/watch/listen to. Common sense has a big part in this whole thing. But I also think it's a question of the "big middle ground." By that I mean, nearly every thinking human being knows what hardcore porn is, what child porn is, what extreme violence is. I think we all know what "G-rated" entertainment is. But in the big middle ground, who do you appoint and what standards do you use to delineate the rest of it. Think of what Karm brought up--there are some who think a sexy costume on a dance show needs to have a warning label. And some who don't have a problem with it. Some might say it's fine to have shoot 'em up scenes on TV because it's "cartoonish" violence and some who don't even want a hint of that. AND, some who might say (like my friend) there are some things so horrible going on that we NEED it in our faces--racism and poverty or whatever (pick an issue) and some who don't want to think about it, see it, or watch it. Who determines the standards? Look at some science texts now. With no offense intended toward Creationists, I don't believe there is a scientist in the pinnacles of science (not the fringes) who thinks in an aboslutely literal Adam/Eve Bible story (7 days and all that)--again, no offense if that's what you believe. But now it's creeping back into textbooks for kids when the Scopes Monkey trial was how long ago? It's hard to know whose standards to use on many things. Again, not the obvious things. Not the really bad/degrading/violent things. But the middle ground. So I agree with you, Natalie. Just that sticky middle is where it's tough.
E

10:31 PM, September 15, 2006  
Blogger Jude Hardin said...

I oppose censorship, except when it's something I don't like, and then it's okay.

*Joke.*

I'm bracing myself for another slap. :)

2:59 AM, September 16, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

No, Jude . . . I actually was THINKING that. :-)

I think a lot of people will be OK with a PG-13 rating, for instance, for tasteful female nudity or breasts--when it goes full frontal of a woman, they want an R. When there is even the HINT of a penis--they want an NC-17. Why? What sort of patriarchal leftover is that--the penis is what determines the rating? It suddenly crosses the line, but a woman can prance naked and that's fine. My point it, depending on where your opinions lie on a continuum, is where you think the line in the sand is. Race, religion, politics, and a whole lot of other stuff determine it . . . and again, my point in the comment above . . . the middle ground is where it gets sticky. If you love the idea of gay marriage (I do), you have no problem with your kids seeing gays kissing on screen or on TV. My kids are CONSTANTLY scoping out men for their favorites of my gay guy pals--"Oh, wouldn't he make the perfect boyfriend for so and so?" And to me, loving that about my kids, I am offended by even a warning label--because that says a gay kiss is "wrong" and a straight one is fine. Who decides? But obviously, for a lot of people, the BIBLE decides--um, okay, and that's your choice but what about separation of church and state? And so on and on. I don't want to fight--honest--I didn't post this for anything more than censorship/warning labels and the like. But the middle ground is what divides us as people more often than not.

E

8:16 AM, September 16, 2006  
Blogger Karmela Johnson said...

During that exact same Superbowl telecast, there was a commercial for the Hugh Jackman movie Van Helsing. It was deep, dark, violent, and it made my 3-year old cry. If they're going to punish JJ and JT for flashing a nipple (because it evidently is an affront to families and "family values," they need to fine the producers of Van Helsing for showing an overly violent movie during the superbowl as well. Fair's fair.

2:26 PM, September 16, 2006  
Blogger Natalie Damschroder said...

You're absolutely right, Erica, about middle ground. And I guess I feel we should err on the side of caution when KIDS are concerned, and if it's aimed at adults, let us figure it out for ourselves. Word of mouth or trial and error is enough.

Yes, it's still sticky. Like the whole Harry Potter brouhaha, which I found totally ridiculous. There is nothing in there I don't want my kids to read. But I had to figure that out on my own because I couldn't trust word of mouth to be accurate.

I don't think any nudity is allowed in PG-13, but I could be wrong. There are plenty of movies I didn't see. They limit the amount of blood that can be shown in a PG-13 movie, too. Which, given the number of deaths in Lord of the Rings, is kind of meaningless. Still, that movie didn't necessarily merit an R. I look back at what was PG when I was a kid, before they had PG-13 and before they said WHY something was rated that way, and I cringe.

Karm, I agree with you 100%. My 7-year-old loves football, and every Sunday she has to block her ears and close her eyes and hum during those incessant and way-too-revealing previews for CSI and Without A Trace and all those other crime dramas. I hate it.

Ooh, Erica, you brought up another conundrum I've been thinking about:

AND, some who might say (like my friend) there are some things so horrible going on that we NEED it in our faces--racism...

My kids have always had friends of other races, and they have family members that are both Hispanic and of (half) African-American parentage. I've (almost) never talked to them about racism. It's not that I want them to hide their heads in the sand. It's that I don't want them to start thinking of their friends or family members as different. Right now, to them, they are not. The conundrum is that I don't know if that perpetuates the problem, or will help heal it, in the long (very long) run.

1:37 PM, September 18, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Natalie:
It was years before my kids realized there were different races. In fact, my daughter was TWELVE before she realized my father wasn't African-American (he is very dark-skinned, but not black--he's Russian. It was only recently my kids realized they were Hispanic ("We thought we were Mexican"--they didn't understand there are many names for Latinos in this country). LOL!

On the other hand, I try to make them understand that not everyone is color blind. One of my kids has a very Spanish name and I realize there will people people who see that name--on a resume or what have you--and will have some preconceived notion of who they are about to meet. It is a tough call. I just tell them that prejudice in any form is wrong, and we talk about it.

E

4:24 PM, September 18, 2006  
Blogger Natalie Damschroder said...

God, THANK YOU! I normally don't care what other people think of how I parent, but this is something I worry about. Having a little external validation makes me feel so much better.

So I'll continue striving for that balance...knowing what's out there, and trying to help fix it without contributing to it.

2:45 PM, September 20, 2006  
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