Thursday, October 19, 2006

Outlines, Visuals, John Madden, and Me (with Some Cheesecake Thrown in)

I don't outline. I have a really lousy attention span, and outlines drive me nuts. They bore me. By the time I am done with my outline, I don't want to write the book. I lose something, some spark.

I don't tack up pictures of my characters either, though I have friends who do. I know Karmela Johnson, who drops by here often, will often post pictures of her new characters on her blog. I love that I can "see" her new vision. But I don't do that.

I don't make up index cards. I have writer pals who do that too, rearranging the cards to play with plot. Great idea. Useful tool. Not me.

I resent when I am called a "Pantster" (for a write-by-the-seat-of-your-pants novelist versus a plotter). That seems to imply sloppiness or something. Like I don't care. And that's not true. It's all in my head. Tons of details and snippets. It's there. Now, if I was suddenly struck by a bus, the book would die with me--no notes, nothing left behind. But trust me, I have a plan.

So I was thinking about it. Do I use ANY visuals? And I do!!!!

You see, I have a lot in common with John Madden. First of all, Madden refuses to fly. (For those of you who don't know who he is . . . FOOTBALL, folks!) Everyone who knows me very well knows I only fly in a tranquilized to near-catatonic-state. (Spanish Disco's drug scene? Autobiographical.) They also know if I won the lottery tomorrow, or sold a ZILLION books, I would buy this:

http://www.allstarcoaches.com/patriotlobas.htm

A rock star bus.

Madden has one of those.

He also has this really cool pen, this white pen that he draws arrows and things with all over the TV screen to show forward motion or where the various players are going to run when the football is snapped.

I do that.

You see . . . I will write out key plot points on a piece of sketch paper. Then I will take a pen and write arrows from this to this to this. Then, as the novel progresses, I will write notes to myself. YOU couldn't understand my notes. They are the notes of an insane, soon-to-be-coffee-less woman. But I understand them. And my arrows and circles and things look like John Madden's white-pen-on-screen scribblings.

So that's what I use for visuals when I write. How about you? Anything you tack up on your computer to help you "see" your work?

AND . . . side note to Mr. Perfect . . . .

This has to do with football, not writing. For those of you who don't read Dana Diamond's blog . . . you must. She is gracious and warm, and a great writer. She is also married, as those who read her blog know, to Mr. Perfect. A.k.a. "Mr. P." Now, he may be a great guy. He may be a lot of things. But he roots for the Falcons. And he is obnoxious about it. As anyone who knows ME can attest, I am so far from perfect it's ludicrous. I can't cook, would perish in dust bunnies were it not for my housekeeper, and my house is chaotic. I also cry at sad movies--and it's very messy. No, perfect I am not. HOWEVER, I root for the Giants, which makes me MORE perfect than Mr. P. So . . . a gauntlet was thrown down. The Falcons/Giants game was known as the "Cheesecake Bowl of 2006." To the winner . . . the spoils . . . a cheesecake. John Madden would be proud. The Giants won. And to Mr. P . . . I am waiting for that cheesecake.

Cheers, All!
E

P.S. Please . . . share your visuals!

21 Comments:

Blogger lainey bancroft said...

Funny, the cp and I were discussing this the other day. She considers herself a linear thinker, she has her pictures, including various visuals of her settings, he GMC, the works, all sorted out before she begins. :0
She claims to say that I am non-linear would be the understatement of all time, and says she googled 'opposite of linear' and got HYPER?? Nah, not me.

I start with a series of unconnected scenes, hand written on various bizarre scraps of paper and usually by the time I sit down at the computer, I have the characters and the story clear in my head and its just a matter of joining it up in a ...linear? manner.

Enjoy your cheesecake, Erica!

10:36 AM, October 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always felt that pantster (however you spell it, since nobody appears to agree) connotes disorganization. Which is true of me, a natural pantzer so I can hardly argue.

I don't have index cards either. Can't stand them.

I'm kinda doing what you do on sketching paper, except I do it on lined paper, in my notebook, and I have numbers connecting them, in an order only I can make sense off. LOL.

10:40 AM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Lainey:
The funny thing is, I am not hyper. I am a New Yorker, so I definitely have a faster inner rhythm, but I am totally Ok being "still." But linear . . . not me.

E

10:51 AM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

May: I really had to stop and think. Am I disorganized? I tend to think I am chaotic. Eccentric. But not disorganized. I have a Daytimer with appointments for my kids, pets, life, etc. scheduled 6 months in advance. I know where every scrap of paper is--photographic (or close to it) memory. BUT . . . I seem to like chaos, clutter, spontaneity, etc. So I just don't know . . . you've definitely given me something to think about.
E

10:53 AM, October 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erica, I do know where everything is. People just don't think I do. And if it suits their view of the world to think that way, fine. So long you leave my stuff alone! LOL.

Lainey, you know, I think the word your cp was looking for was organic.

11:27 AM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

May:
I like organic much better!

And yeah, the perception of me is definitely that's I'm a mess. :-) But it really is an organized mess.

E

11:41 AM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Lisa Pulliam said...

My plotting stuff would probably give you hives...I do a thorough plotting board with colors for hero POV, heroine POV, hero backstory, heroine backstory, secondary characters, settings, love scenes, conflict, yadda yadda. Then I have a handy Excel document that has colums for chapter, scene, POV, description, scene type (external plot, romance, etc), day of timeline and wordcount.

Sometimes I'm super visual and do best with the board. Other times I'm in list mode and the document helps me. All in all these tools tell me if I have had too many chapters with the heroine's POV or something.

12:14 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger lainey bancroft said...

May,
This is from dictionary.com
5. Psychology. caused by neurochemical, neuroendocrinologic, structural, or other physical impairment or change: organic disorder.Compare functional (def. 5).
7. characterized by the systematic arrangement of parts; organized; systematic: elements fitting together into a unified, organic whole.

If you meant #7, t'anks ;P
If however, you meant #5...could someone recommend a good therapist? :0

12:38 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Natalie Damschroder said...

Erica, I think what you do is similar to what a bunch of people have started calling "mind mapping." Formally, they use a big pad of newsprint and write the tidbits of the story in a kind of crazy flowchart, with connections between bubbles and stuff.

I don't do any of it. I keep a spreadsheet as I write that has characters and some info about them (like the superpower they have) and number of pages per chapter (so I can keep them close) and whatever else needs to be in the story (like what color goes with what emotion for the empath). As I write, I take notes on stuff I have to remember and ideas I have going forward. And that's it.

Oh, and the proper term is "flyer." Someone suggested that somewhere because we fly by the seat of our pants when we write. We don't pull people's pants down. :)

2:02 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Lisa:
I have hives just READING about what you do. :-)

E

3:32 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

May:
If I ever saw a therapist, I am sure he or she would run shrieking from the room. And would then need therapy. :-)

E

3:33 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Natalie:
I like flyer so much more!

You outline folks remind me of an old writing partner of mine, Dr. Kathy Levinson. We were two sides of the brain. Me--all in my head. HER? Highlighters, color-coded folders and all sorts of stuff. We mocked each other.

E

3:34 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Jude Hardin said...

I don't outline either. I've tried, but it just isn't me. I usually have a fairly good idea where the story's going, but sometimes I'm surprised and that's okay too.

Last night I put a scene worksheet up on my blog that might be useful for both outliners and "flyers." It helps me keep certain elements in mind, especially on rewrite. It's really the only visual aid I use.

3:58 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Jude:
Reading your post . . . I realized so much of what I do in scenes is very instinctual. On the one hand, if you have good instincts honed after writing for 15 or 20 years (or more--GULP!), then that's great. On the other hand, if you're in denial about your gut instincts, it could be your downfall! You scene sheet (over on your blog) looks very useful.E

4:05 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Mr. P said...

Just like a New Yorker to rub salt in the wound!! I thought Virginia was for Lover's you big meanie!!

Let me tell you I was so happy by half time until Dana came in and cursed me. She said oh great your teams winning. In football terms ladies and gentlemen that is the kiss of death!! I hope you enjoy your cheesecake!!

By the way, if you haven't had a chance to read High Heels in Heaven you should. I'm not a reader by any stretch of the imagination, and definately not a writer, but I must tell everyone it's a great book!!!

Humbled beyond belief

Mr. P

4:41 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Mr. P:
You called my team the MIDGETS on a public blog. I couldn't let the entire Cheesecake Bowl '06 pass without at least ONE public comment to shame you into sending me cheesecake. :-)

And I really like Dana a lot, but you have GOT to sit her down and tell her she cannot jinx your team like that. As my family will attest, if the Giants are up, and someone around here goes to say something--ANYTHING--I throw my hands up in a gesture of "stop right there" and scream "DON'T EVEN PUT IT OUT THERE" into the universe. I pity you a little, Mr. P. Jinxes are a tough thing to overcome in a marriage. :-)

And thanks . . . about High Heels. For a GUY to like it . . . high compliment, indeed. (And a SALUTE to your manhood--being as it had the whole gay love story subplot . . . you just might be Almost Perfect.)

E

5:02 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Sara Hantz said...

I can go with organised mess! My desk is always a tip - as is my house - but I know where things are. And as for plotting - I HAVE to outline, usually about 4 pages, then do a scene by scene breakdown.

I have a very short attention span and if I have to spend too long trying to work things out as I go along then I get bored. Which is why an outline is good because I've done it already.

I'm also a list person - I write everything on my list. And if it's not on the list it won't get done because I won't remember!!

9:27 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Dana Diamond said...

Erica,

I *love* it. I write like that!

About the most I do is write the equivalent of a page or two outline on Excel (kinda like your Madden play-by-play flowchart), but things always change as I go.

Also, thanks for the kind words about me, my writing and my blog. I feel the same way about you on all accounts.

As for the jinxing…what can I say?

I am a total loser. I am not worthy. I suck. I blow. I stand corrected. I sit corrected. I hang my head in shame corrected…I even *knew* better in the first place.

(Heh, heh, you’re welcome! ;)

:) d

10:36 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Sara:
I have, once or twice, under the gun, outlined. I did find it grounded me more--I could pick up in a scene and know exactly where I was in the plot and not have to re-read a bunch of stuff and get "grounded" again. But like many a stubborn person, it did not "convert" me to another wat of writing! :-)

E

10:50 PM, October 19, 2006  
Blogger Erica Orloff said...

Dana:
One of the greatest things about having this blog is finding those "oh, me, too!" moments. It helps to know we aren't the ONLY ones doing it that way.

And hey . . . as long as your jinxing the FALCONS, I don't mind. Jinx away, my friend. :-)

E

10:52 PM, October 19, 2006  
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